Canned Hunting Petition

[Nephilim]

Originally posted by Ravoc
What do you mean Neph?

Well. To make one thing clear, I certainly do not agree with canned hunting. However, killing an animal there and then, in a short period of time, seems a lot more humane than food factories. To me it seems like a far crueler thing are the food factories; food factories where, for example, large numbers of chickens have their beaks burnt off (despite them having nerves in them) so that they don't kill each other because of the conditions they have to endure- large numbers of them in tiny cages, fed drugs that cause them to put on so much weight so unnaturally their own legs break from the weight, being beaten to death in slow and painful ways... well, you get the idea.

[Katse]

Yes, Neph, I've heard of what you're talking about. Most of the places that do that are outside of the U.S.(no offense to anyone). The USDA or whoever deals with that outlaws those methods. I find it cruel, yes, but, don't get me started on a whole debate about humans eating meat(I'm in an Agriculture class, so just don't.). I know they're more humane with chickens now. Exactly what they do to them now, I'm not so sure. My Ag. teacher like cattle, so that's what we mostly learned about when it came to butcher factories.

Thanks everyone for the support. It means a lot, at least to me!

[unregistered user]

Ah okay, I thought you were talking about animals finding food or something for a minute there Neph

But yeah.. the food facorites do sicken me, when I learnt about KFC's cruelty to chickens I quit eating there altogether and until I hear it has been stopped, I won't eat there again.

[Aurelian]

For once, I actually agree with Neph! (Nothing against her, we are just total opposites) I do not eat fast food. Not only is it inhumane to the animals that are eaten, but it is just as inhumane to us. Fast food is worse for people then candy these days. All the calories make me gag just thinking about them.

I also agree with Pntbll about hunting. Although I would never have the heqart to do it, I have no problem with hunting for food or nessesary suplies for survival. (Thanks to WhiteWolf for reminding me that some people use fur to keep warm. I was very stubborn on that front). However, I do not agree with sport or trophy hunting in any way shape or form. Some people are so cold hearted

[unregistered user]

Originally posted by Roquivo
For once, I actually agree with Neph! (Nothing against her, we are just total opposites) I do not eat fast food. Not only is it inhumane to the animals that are eaten, but it is just as inhumane to us. Fast food is worse for people then candy these days. All the calories make me gag just thinking about them.

I also agree with Pntbll about hunting. Although I would never have the heqart to do it, I have no problem with hunting for food or nessesary suplies for survival. (Thanks to WhiteWolf for reminding me that some people use fur to keep warm. I was very stubborn on that front). However, I do not agree with sport or trophy hunting in any way shape or form. Some people are so cold hearted

Have you tried the micrib lately? I like to over salt mine.

[Suki]

The only fast food thing I ever eat is french fries. BTW, meat is bad for your arteries because it can clog up your throat...the reason I don't eat meat is that it's animal. I mean, really, would you really want to be eating a cow or a pig? I mean, that's just gross, IMO.

[Aurelian]

Sadly, Suki, I could not survive without meat. My matabolism is too fast. I really have no problem with eating me, because it is part of nature. Humans are omnivors. To put it into TLK terms, humans eat the pigs and cows. When we die, our bodies become the grass. OK, I don't know about pigs, but cows eat the grass. Therefor, we are all connested in a very arkward Circle of Life.

However, I pride vegetarians for their big hearts.

Phantom, what is micrib?

[unregistered user]

Originally posted by Roquivo
Sadly, Suki, I could not survive without meat. My matabolism is too fast. I really have no problem with eating me, because it is part of nature. Humans are omnivors. To put it into TLK terms, humans eat the pigs and cows. When we die, our bodies become the grass. OK, I don't know about pigs, but cows eat the grass. Therefor, we are all connested in a very arkward Circle of Life.

However, I pride vegetarians for their big hearts.

Phantom, what is micrib?

It's a sandwich at Mcdonalds and I was just messing with ya! :noogie:

But seriously, I love eating animals I'm gonna burn in hell!

[Whitewolf]

Signed it
If you can't hunt in the wild and you must use this kind of method you should not hunt at all

[unregistered user]

I'm sorry Phantom but after hearing what McDonalds of all business are doing to animals and the Amazon Rain Forest.. I really can't find any humor in your sarcasm. Usually sarcasm appeals to me, but when it comes to that.. I just can't. =/

A size of Rhode Island is being taken out of the Amazon rainforest (it was either every day or every week, I can't remember) for McDonalds to use the land for cattle farming. And after the cows are fat enough they murder them in a grotesque way. Others know more about the cattle more than I do, it would be best to get input fromt hem aobut that, I only know about the Amazon.

I really loathe McDonalds and everything they stand for (except for their health clinics for children, that is the only thing).

[Katse]

Ravoc, I completely agree with you about being against McDonalds and the Amazon issue. It's not just there, but other people do it, too. Cows are the most destructive of the market animals, next to sheep. That is why I barely eat beef anymore. To explain the way they kill the cattle for meat is that they shoot the animal in the head(if I remember correctly from what my teacher told me, him being a former butcher, himself). It used to be worse, but this is the most "humane" they can think of right now.

Most of the information about meat factories you have been hearing about are most likely coming from PETA. I don't mean to offend anyone if they support them, but they are extremists, to a point where it's false and dangerous. Any footage they have captured and claimed that are going on in the US are completely wrong. Once again, it's what's going on outside of the US.

I completely respect all vegetarians and sometimes wish that I could be one. It's very hard for me because of my Hispanic culture and upbringing. I just look at it as, like Roquivo said, the Circle of Life. Humans can't live without meat. It has been proven.

[unregistered user]

That is basically my view as well Katse and Roq. I can't give meat up, I like it way too much.

And yes, most of the info I receive about animal cruelty does come from PETA. I hate PETA, I'll tell anyone that I hate them. But they're my only information source besides the news (which isn't reporting on anything concerning animals at all). I know PETA is biased beyond words as well. And the sad thing is witht heir extreme behavior they do more harm for animal and nature lovers than good. They make other people who could possibly help nature not want to based off of their stupidity. No one wants to get involved with them <<

And thus, PETA must be banished to the place that we don't speak of Seriously.. they should >>

[Aurelian]

I believe there was a post made about Peta (The one stunt they pulled with the giant meat trays at the state building near my home, that WhiteWolf posted), and I don't think a single person had anything good to say about them. As much as I love animals, I am nolt about to blow up a building full of people because they use animals for experimentations. Depending on what the experiments were prooving, Id'e either try to stop them in a civilized manner, or let them go if they were working on Cancer or some other uncurable deasease.

The difference between Defenders of Wildlife and Peta(People for the ethical treatment of animals), is that Dof puts humans and animals on the same level while PETA puts them above humans.

[Hanshilo]

Sick minded ppl who would want to hurt animals they shall burn in hell for ever... Animals don't deserve this i am afraid, they were here before humans. and yet these ppl think it is clever and big to tease tormeant and torture such beautiful creations.:roars:
It is just wrong if anybody should ban huntting Canned is the one for banning, not fox hunting and that kind of stuff, because that is pathetic aswell, if the animals turned on humans i wouldn't blame them...
If i ever caught ppl doing this i think i would kill them...
I hate money, okay we need it to survive, and i have money but what they do to make money i can't agree with it, and i did become a vegi because of what i heard but my mum said she didn't want to, cook seperately... I try and avoid places like Mc donalds, and KFC...
And usually when i go to my dad i stick with the vegi meals...
I have been put off of beef though.

I can't believe they would shot a lion though, and chickens I love chickens... alive of course cause they are so humourous to watch...
I love all my animals...
I am a soft hearted person, just depends on what circumstances are, if the animal killed the humans, i am just too soft hearted and blame the humans , but the humans killing animals, uh i still blame the humans... Damn the money greedy PIGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have no sypathy for these type. I hate hurting animals but if there is an animal that is nearly dead i would do what it most probably wants me to do, to put it outta pain, but that is how i have been taught, of course if i think the animal will live then i would take it home and take it to the vets or if i can't be bothered i would do it my self...

[Juniper]

I sense a double-standard.

I personally can't easily comprehend how someone could say that an animal has the same value as a person, but that doesn't mean that I think animals should be treated how they are in society.

[SimbaTLK1]

Signed

[unregistered user]

Pntbll, the Bible itself says animals are valued the same as humans. The only difference is that God said we have the right to eat them etc. etc..

Anyway, great news! The petition is half way to its goal!

[Katse]

Originally posted by Ravoc
Anyway, great news! The petition is half way to its goal!

That's awesome news! I made another thread like this on Lilymud, too. Maybe that'll help.

[King Simba]

Originally posted by Katse
That's awesome news! I made another thread like this on Lilymud, too. Maybe that'll help.

I'm almost certain a lot of members over at Lilymud would love to help out also.

[unregistered user]

Originally posted by Ravoc
I'm sorry Phantom but after hearing what McDonalds of all business are doing to animals and the Amazon Rain Forest.. I really can't find any humor in your sarcasm. Usually sarcasm appeals to me, but when it comes to that.. I just can't. =/

A size of Rhode Island is being taken out of the Amazon rainforest (it was either every day or every week, I can't remember) for McDonalds to use the land for cattle farming. And after the cows are fat enough they murder them in a grotesque way. Others know more about the cattle more than I do, it would be best to get input fromt hem aobut that, I only know about the Amazon.

I really loathe McDonalds and everything they stand for (except for their health clinics for children, that is the only thing).

I've always been partial to the fish sandwich.